Why Football Shirt Numbers are Different By Country

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1. Took til 1909 for the lads to figure different color shirts was a good idea lol

2. Honestly l, this calms my desire to know all the why's around squad numbers that players pick. Awesome

3. and then we had Mohammed Kallon, striker for Inter, wearing 3

4. Now I have thinky pain

5. My favorite version is at local level and youth teams, where your shirt number is just what size your shirt is. Teams ordering off of statistical probability with smalls being 2-7, mediums being 8-16, and so on, for example.

6. Can we just agree to not call positions by fictitious numbers that no longer have any immediately relevance?

7. And then there's Italy

8. Why the complete silence around number 8?

9. As a British creator, why do you say dates in such a weird mixed way and not just the normal way? When you mix up the order it's confusing and hard to keep up.

10. Why did 6 drop back in England rather 4?

11. While I totally understand the appeal of this old position-based numbering system, I still prefer the more "freestyle" numbering we have today. 🤷

12. England is Europe

13. In championship manager, my back 4 is 2 4 6 3!

14. trarnsition

15. Fall River Marksmen mentioned 🎉🎉🎉🎉

16. I could watch a 3-season documentary on the numbering history in one sitting. This is fascinating

17. This is, by now, an older video and it treats the theme in general terms and so on, so I don't expect a lot of minute details about Brasil, nor especific ones.

    In Brasil, at least in Rio, the WM did not work on the big clubs: we have been using a center-half as our ace for many years, his fuctions were mainly supporting the attack. When the hungarian coach Kürschner arrived at Flamengo, he found a very stuborn veteran called Fausto, which I would name the first WC star of Brasil (even if I am a Fluminense fan and Preguinho scored the first brazilian goal). Fausto refused to play like a full-back.
    Kürschner successor in coaching Flamengo, Flávio Costa, and Fluminense 1938-43 coach, Ondino Viera (uruguaian), both implemented a defence-attack system by the way of two diagonals. One of the side half-backs would become a full-back at the side of the pitch, while the other would not. The centerhalf were dropped slightly to the front of the fullbacks, but still expected to be supporting the attack.
    In some teams, the numbers also changed a bit. Fluminense's numbering were a bit different, even when the predominant tactic became the 4-2-4 (or 4-3-3, in practice): the defence line, from left to right, was numbered like this: 6 5 3 2, because the number 4 stayed with the center-half, even if he never really played as a fullback. There is mounting evidence of this in photo's of the 60's, when 4-2-4/4-3-3 was used by EVERYONE in the country.

    The attack, meanwhile, followed a diagonal too and that's when the brazilian position of spearhead came to be: one of the insiders would be dropped to near the midfield, while the other would be near the attackers. The numbering of the shirts came in this stage of brazilian football, mid 1940. In most teams, on the attack side, the left insider became the spearhead, while the right one was dropped to the midfield, given a more supportive role. That's why our number 10 is mostly associated with attacking positions, like Zizinho (the first brazilian number 10) and Pelé. The number 8 was worn by the likes of Gerson and Didi, who would mostly think the game, known for deep overhead passes and great vision.
    
    Our wingers always wore 7 (right) and 11 (left) and the centerfoward always wore the number 9.

18. I have always wondered why they are called "Full Backs". Now I understand.

19. The first FA Cup with numbering occured in the 1930s. One team came out in numbers 1-11, the opposition team had number 12-22.

20. Finally I understand. Thank you 🙏🏻

21. Here's my personal view on shirt number

    GK – 1
    RB – 6
    CB – 4 + 3
    LB – 2
    CDM – 5
    CAM – 7
    CM – 8
    LW – 10
    RW – 11
    ST – 9

22. For me, it has always been
    GK 1
    RB 2
    Cb 4,5
    LB 3
    CDM 6
    CM 8
    CAM 10
    RW 7
    LW 11
    ST 1

23. Funny story about Brazil. Here, the numbering depends on the local adaptation of the WM in the so called diagonal system. It basically depended on which half back dropped to the line and was kept more offensively . Usually it was the left half back, but occasionally it was the right half back, in which case the number of the right back was 4 and not 2, reading 6, 3, 2, 4. Just like the Argentinian case. Some Brazilian clubs, like Corinthians and Fluminense, held to this tradition right up to the '90's.

24. 12 is the number of the og super sub

25. I’ve never been a fan of squad numbers I prefer the old way starting players get 1-11 and subs get the rest.

26. It's not uncommon in the United States for keepers to wear 0 and 00 at youth and teen levels

27. I'm not sure but I think it was on Euro84 that the portuguese national team mix up numbers and used a completely random number selection to confuse the man marking system of their opponents.

    They've reached the semi finals and only lost against Platini's France on their home soil.

28. in the 1970s and early 1980s the Argentinian world cup squads were numbered alphabetically, which could look a bit weird, with goalkeepers with number 5 or 7 (Fillol) and midfield players with number 1 (Ardiles)

29. It’s interesting to compare with Rugby Union where the sport abandoned a brief flirtation with squad numbers in the 90s and has stuck rigidly to a position based 1-15 system ever since. Even though the positions and their numbers are not formally defined in the rules of either sport the numbers and their positions are the same worldwide in rugby union even if the names of the positions are not always the same. Tinkering with the numbers and their positions is frowned upon. Whereas even when football was 1-11 playing a number in the ‘wrong’ position was common. I remember a Nottingham Forest match where Brian Clough played his son Nigel at right back but Nigel wore 9 because that was his normal number.

30. Trent Alexander Arnold is a text book definition of a 66. John Terry was a key figure in the evolution of the no. 26 role. Despite being a 14, Thierry Henry was rarely a second substitute and usually started. Fabien Barthez totally re-defined the number 16 role.

31. When I was playing amateur football in the seventies, lads would automatically grab their favourite shirt, centre forwards would grab the 9, team loudmouth would grab the 10 and because of Best, Keegan, etc, the 7 caused a fight. I always grabbed the 11 first as nobody wanted it.

32. In the 70ies, 80ies and 90ies (at least) in Italy 2 was right back, 3 left back, 5 stopper (centre back) and 6 was the sweeper (Scirea, Baresi…) number 4 was a centre midfielder, usually a holding mid.

33. Fantastic video. You are absolutly right about the numbers in Brazil. I’m brazilian. Congratulations

34. Very informative, but it still doesn't touch the mystery of Liga MX numbering. Literally can choose from 000-999.

35. Fascinating …

36. “…like Fernando Redondo… okay Lucas Biglia” lmfao 😂

37. Funny how the first formation, 2-3-5, is very similar to what teams look like nowadays when in attack. History has come full circle

38. Strikers with attitude issues #45, winger converted to CM #31, winger /Striker #14, a year to late but still great propper soccer intelligence, thank you tifo, Joe devine?

39. a lovely piece of history

40. I am a goalkeeper and I use number 23

41. Can You Make video on Football Logos and history behind them ??……
    plz reply !!!!!

42. lol this explains a lot of the confusion we had playing in an international school with lads from all over… had a great german defensive guy that played as '6' which, me playing goalkeeper and being from Argentina, meant that he should stayed in the defensive….and the guy just keep going back to the midfield while I screamed at him savagely to get back down….20 years later, now I know why

43. what number should I be? I am a very pacey right wing that has a pretty balanced style on the pitch, not a huge goalscorer but can finish if I get the oppurtunity

44. 3:07 I think the Doncaster manager joined a band after this…😂

45. bale started out as a left back at spurs and retained his number when he went to left wing, always thought that was a wig out

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